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    we shot on colour negative kodak stock -- after being promised that a local transfer house could properly scan the flip the negative into a positive image on video. unfortunately, they lied.

    so, we have successfully transferred the negative image onto film with a telecine -- but we now need to flip it into a positive image (in final cut pro, for example). any ideas of how to do this?

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    Telecine is NOT AN OPTION, with Color Neg stock. Your going to have to have the film transfer via Rank Transfer . Try Yale Film Video, No. Hollywood. Pre pair to pay three times the running time of the film, for the transfer. For color correction some times more. For a "one light," or making the color corrections on the fly...less costly not as professional.

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    I think at one time someone posted that if you were willing to let the transfer house do it at their leasure, they might be willing to give you a deal.

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    Try Bono's @ www.bonofilm.com

    haven't used them yet, but plan on it in the near future.

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    Yale does not do it anymore as I had experience before. Either Bono's in Virginia too. Try pro8mm but lots of people dislike its' business but its expensive but better than nothing unless you desperate for the footage looks. I forgot the name of business in new york that do negtaive transfer for real low price but i am on my journey. Jerome, deaf filmmaker

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    There is a pretty easy way to do the colour inverting yourself by means of any Mac. Here?s how:

    If your videotransfer is not yet on a DV cassette (Digital Video) do the transfer, hook the DV recorder up to your Mac through a Firewire connection (Also called IEEE 1394 or iLink) and transfer your video onto the hard disc of your Mac.

    In case you have something like a VHS cassette either copy it to a DV recorder and then proceed as mentioned above or connect your VHS recorder with a DV converter like Dazzle?s "Hollywood Bridge" that converts the analogue video signal in real time into a DV signal and feeds that right into the Firewire port of your Mac.

    Then fire up iMovie after having first downloaded from www.imovieplugins.com a plug in called "negate colour" that can just do that, invert the colours to a positive colour scheme. After download place the plug in into the correct folder of your Mac, the manual tells you exactly what to do.

    In iMovie go to the effects pane and choose "invert" after having activated your complete video in the timeline. Click "Apply" and lean back. After some time your complete movie will be available in positive colours.

    Should be cheaper than having the transfer done by Super8Sound, although they do a hell of a job.

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    Sorry, forgot to mention there is also a comparable proceedure with QuickTime. If you are interested, please email me. Would have to consult my archive how it is done but I know it works. That would open up a possiblity to do it on any Windoze PC in case you have no access to a Mac.

    Peter

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    Yale still transfers super 8 negative. I use:
    www.posthouse.com
    You can also try:
    www.thetransferstation.com

    Just a quick note; never send negative film through a standard film chain process. Negative will scratch very easy. You need to use a scanner like a Rank. Standard film chains are projector multiplexers, scanners use rubber wheels and more often than not a wet gate.

    If all you can afford is a standard transfer, use reversal film. I'm a little shocked that a transfer house would even run your film. Not a professional lab I take it....

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    rollemfilm,
    Have you used both places to do a telecine transfer? Which one did you prefer? How many rolls of film can you transfer in an hour's worth of transfer time? I got on the Posthouse site but didn't see any prices. How much does it usually cost there? The transfer station seemed fairly cheap compared to Yale or Pro8mm.

    Brad

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    I have used CinePost. I think that they do some great work. I give them the thumbs up for sure.

    Good Luck

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